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1  Main Board / Discussion / Rome 2010 by Train (WAPCEPC)
 on: Oct 29th, 2009, 9:09pm 
Started by SueWigg | Post by SueWigg
Hi there,
 
This is my first post on the BAPCA forum as I have finally managed to work out how to post a message so hope this finds its way to the right place.
 
The main reason for me making this post is to send feelers out in order to find out if anybody out there is thinking of going to the WAPCEPC World Conference by train. I am not good at flying and it's not really green so I thought it might be nice to go by train and maybe seek like-minded people in the hope I could find some travelling companions (although I not fully 100% sure that I will be going but should know by end Jan).  
 
One can travel by train to Rome quite easily; it is just two trains from London; you get the Eurostar from London to Paris and then an overnight train from Paris to Rome.  You arrive right into the centre of Rome at around 10am the next morning.  I worked out that it costs from £149 for a return journey from London to Rome (around £59 for Eurostar London to Paris return, and around £90 for the overnight Paris-Rome return) in a couchette.  For about £100 more each, you and one or two travelling companions can share a private sleeper compartment which have fully made up beds and includes coffee and croissants the next morning and means you can use the first class lounge in Paris)). In addition there are no airport taxes, no baggage handling and you arrive right into the centre of Rome, so no taxi fee. There is a really good website which has links to Youtube showing people actually travelling quite recently.    
http://www.seat61.com/Italy.htm
 
If there is anybody out there interested please let me know - please email me directly at spwiggins@googlemail.com.
Warmest wishes
Sue Wiggins
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2  Main Board / Discussion / Hi newbie here
 on: Jan 31st, 2009, 10:12am 
Started by changes - Ex Member | Post by changes - Ex Member
Hi  Smiley just haveing a nosey round the boards an interesting start . Seems you have attracted a troll though mr casino  Huh Look forward to discussions with you all.
 
www.counselling.forumup.org
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3  Main Board / Information / Re: Hello everyone!
 on: Oct 30th, 2008, 8:58am 
Started by parts - Ex Member | Post by MarkH - Ex Member
I'm here, to some extent. Welcome to the BAPCA forum, hopefully growing in activity.
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4  Main Board / Information / Hello everyone!
 on: Oct 28th, 2008, 9:47am 
Started by parts - Ex Member | Post by parts - Ex Member
I am a counsellor in training and looking for some peer support! Anyone here? Wink
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5  Main Board / Discussion / Re: Discussion anyone?
 on: Sep 15th, 2008, 1:01pm 
Started by MarkH - Ex Member | Post by aabbcc - Ex Member
How much WILL we be affected? During training we were required to 'look in ' to other modules. Were we then 'tainted' ? of course not. Other modules surely can be accepted if not intergrated into PCc.  I see Carl Rogers approach as accepting to all, but not neccessarily intergrating other approaches.
 
I  have experienced CBT and was not impressed, that does not mean that I cannot perhaps discover a part of that module that I can use. To me, part of the beauty of  the Person Centred approach is that it is always chainging with time, not modifying but assimilating and improving. it is not 'set in stone' nor are there any strict rules to say there cannot be slight additions or variations, it is  based on what the client appears to require, therefore cannot be altered to any outside element or techniques. Roll Eyes
 
As for government registration  that is not here yet  undecided
 
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6  Main Board / Discussion / Discussion anyone?
 on: Jun 20th, 2008, 1:19pm 
Started by MarkH - Ex Member | Post by MarkH - Ex Member
All,
 
I notice a lot of reads here, and yet not a huge amount of replies.  
 
I realise that regulation has attracted some discussion yet I wonder about some of the side issues. For example, BAPCA exists to promote the PCA. How does this bode with anyone as we build alliances with others that maybe blur the boundaries whilst all counselling approaches face regulation? Are we moving into BACP territory? Should we pull back from getting too involved with other approaches here? I wonder if anyone out there has anything extra to say?
 
Mark Harrison
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7  Main Board / Announcements / State Regulation Update - BAPCA CG
 on: Apr 12th, 2008, 6:18pm 
Started by Admin | Post by Admin
STATE REGULATION OF COUNSELLING & PSYCHOTHERAPY
 
GLOSSARY:
 
DH - Department of Health
HPC – Health Professions Council (the regulating body to which we are now tied)
PLG – Professional Liaison Group  (group of counsellors and psychotherapists established by HPC to consider structure of Register, standards, etc. – see below)  
IAPT – Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (within the NHS)
PRG – Project Reference Group (academic researchers, psychologists, psychotherapists, counsellors) to contribute to development & regulation of IAPT programme, also known as:  
 ERG – Expert Reference Group  
SFH – Skills for Health (a consultation programme on the development of:
NOS – National Occupational Standards and:
NWC – National Workforce Competency Standards
MWG – Modality Working Group (to develop competencies & NOS for specific modality, e.g. Psychoanalytic and psychodynamic)
 
Background
 
The White Paper: Trust, Assurance and Safety – the regulation of Healthcare Professionals in the 21st Century has targeted psychologists and psychotherapists as priority groups for regulation. This is expected to come into force 2009/2010  
The Department of Health (DH) has given the Health Professions Council (HPC) the brief to include all counsellors and psychotherapists irrespective of modality, in a central register.   Registration will happen whether or not we co-operate with it and it will become illegal for unregistered people to practice using the registered titles (e.g. counsellor, psychotherapist)
 
BAPCA is represented on the National Reference Group (as the only approach rather than institution) by Allan Turner and Teresa Cosgrove. This group is chaired by Peter Fonagy (a psychoanalyst). Almost every organisation represented in the Reference Group has serious concerns about regulation under HPC (Health Professions Council) which they have made clear to the Department of Health (DH) - also through the media – but it has become clear that these concerns are not being taken into account.  (Organisations which support the principle of State Regulation had argued for a separate body specific to counselling and psychotherapy)
 
HPC is currently in the process of establishing a counsellor and psychotherapists Professional Liaison Group (PLG) which is planned to meet in Autumn 2008 to consider the structure of a register for the profession. The Group’s membership will include representatives of the profession and will consider professional titles, the standards of proficiency, standards of education and training, post registration standards and grand-parenting arrangements. One possibility for professional titles is that all therapists will be Psychological Therapists, but it is also possible that counsellors and psychotherapists will be separately registered. This has not yet been decided.
 
The HPC will then report back to the Secretary of State for Health for England.  There is now total separation between Scotland and England as far as legislation is concerned.  However, it seems that Scotland will orientate itself along similar lines.
 
Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) is a programme originally driven and funded by DH to increase delivery within the NHS of psychological therapies for anxiety and depression.    The IAPT Project Reference Group (or Expert Reference Group) is chaired by Tony Roth (a clinical psychologist) and Peter Fonagy (a psychoanalyst).
 
IAPT and the New Savoy Declaration: The organisations named on this document signed up to sponsor Psychological Therapies in the NHS at the IAPT conference last November. BAPCA did not have a representative at this conference, but has since been invited to become involved in the IAPT initiative.   However, this is linked to significant expense for BAPCA (around £1.500) and the investment will need to be considered carefully.
(You can view the New Savoy Declaration and its signatories on www.babcp.com/documents/NewSavoyDeclaration.pdf.  Also in December 07 ‘Therapy Today’)
 
Skills for Health (SFH) is a consultation on the development of National Occupational Standards (NOS) and National Workforce Competencies Standards for Workers (NWC) for Psychological Therapies. BAPCA was involved in this consultation. The competence frameworks being developed emerged from the IAPT programme and the CBT competency programme is completed – this is where the terms ‘high intensity and low intensity workers’ originates. Competency development for psychoanalytic/psychodynamic; systemic; supervision and person-centred/experiential are ongoing.  Robert Elliott and Mick Cooper are now a part of this expert reference group
(see Research Update from Robert Elliott on BAPCA website or for a short version this year’s convenor’s report.)  
 
Despite this, the DH recently issued a statement in response to an electronic petition which closed on 29.02.08 that shows their vision for the future of counselling and psychotherapy in the UK will be limited to three main modalities :-
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We wish to avoid an increase in different types, or modalities, of psychotherapy. All models share some basic function, and Skills for Health consulted on the competencies of these models earlier this year.  
 
Our view of a comprehensive mental health programme is that it should provide three main modalities. These are psychoanalytical or psychodynamic, cognitive behavioural therapy, and family or systemic psychotherapy. Most other modalities are variants of these or post-basic specialisms. –  http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page14969.asp
 
BACP, UKCP and many other organisations representing models of counselling and psychotherapy which are not covered by these modalities are actively investigating and challenging this statement, which may have been issued in error.
 
The BAPCA CG is being extremely active in ensuring that we have representation on all the appropriate bodies and in getting our viewpoint across to significant individuals.  The news is changing daily, but it seems likely that there will be a 4th modality which would include Person Centred and Experiential Counselling and Psychotherapy.
 
BAPCA’s new Coordinating Group will have its first meeting on April 19th and we will be issuing updates on the website as and when we have reliable information on developments  
(For further general background, information and news bulletins see the BACP website: www.bacp.co.uk)  
 
Carole Dale, on behalf of Andrea Uphoff (Convenor) & the BAPCA C.G.
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8  Main Board / Regulation / Re: USA recognition for person centred approach
 on: Apr 7th, 2008, 10:45pm 
Started by sarahsp | Post by Admin
Sarahsp,
 
Thanks for this  very positive info. Do you know if the PCT is, or needs to be, mentioned directly by APA's divsion 12 for payment claims against medical insurance?
 
regards,
lorenz
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9  Main Board / Regulation / USA recognition for person centred approach
 on: Apr 6th, 2008, 6:57pm 
Started by sarahsp | Post by sarahsp
Extract from the World Association of Person-Centred and Experiential Psychotherapy and Counselling (winter newsletter)
 
Good News from North America!  
The American Psychological Association Division 12,  
The Society of Clinical Psychology has recently decided  
to include Process-Experiential/Emotion-  
Focused Therapy in their Empirically Supported  
Treatment list, specifically for depression. This list  
is often consulted by North American insurance companies  
for payment of claims. We appreciate the vital  
research and advocacy efforts that have gone into  
this political victory.  
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10  Main Board / Announcements / BAPCA in Action
 on: Apr 4th, 2008, 11:25am 
Started by Admin | Post by Admin
Please visit the BAPCA in Action webpage for more up to date news and also to see what BAPCA is doing to represent its members -
http://www.bapca.co.uk/sub.php?n2_id=190&n1_id=3
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